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#41 23-07-2010 12:24:55

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Re: Roger Federer vs Rafael Nadal

Who’s the best? Roger or Rafa?..the debate is just beginning.

‘Wimbledon champion Rafael Nadal is capable of overhauling Roger Federer’s record haul of 16 Grand Slam titles.’

That’s the current view of several tennis experts after Nadal’s brilliant win last week. But, and there’s always a but, he has to stay healthy.

Federer has rewritten the tennis history books over the last few years, in particular becoming the most decorated player in terms of Grand Slam singles titles with 16.

”He (Nadal) has every chance, he’s still very young and has got eight now, he looked very good again on Sunday, you have to wonder whether Roger Federer can respond. We may have to revise our views about who’s the best player that ever lived.” say the experts.

The Spaniard has just turned 24 and at the same age Federer had won just six of his 16 majors.

“It depends a lot on whether he can stay fit and avoid his knee problems as his whole game is based on movement. If he can’t move, he’s dead.” This expert will be surprised if Nadal is still on the tour 2 years from now! The biggest difference between the two great players is their movement, and Federer’s success and longevity at the top is a result of his graceful, ballet-like movement. Nadal’s body will breal down if he continues to play his brand of clay court tennis on the grass and the hard courts. It’s a disater waiting to happen.

Nadal’s tendonitis problems threatened to re-emerge at Wimbledon when he complained of pain during his five-set win over Philipp Petzschner.

The one major he has yet to win is the US Open on the surface which is the most unforgiving to Nadal’s joints.

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Re: Roger Federer vs Rafael Nadal

The two shades of Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer

The two shades of Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer

The last decade has been dominated by the rivalry between Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal. Tennis fans around the globe cherish the time when they see both these greats of the game battle it out in a major final.

There has been much talk over the last few months about whether the days of Federer are over and whether the Spaniard Nadal will reign supreme. Furthermore speculations are rife as to whether Nadal will be able to equal or break Federer’s record of sixteen grand slam titles.

However, one factor that is eluding those writing about records and statistics is the fact that the world might not see the same quality of tennis that is exuded from a Nadal-Federer final.

The sheer pace of the game, the velocity of shots, the depth of the serves and the magnitude of brilliance that is displayed on the show courts when these two face each other may become a distant memory in the near future. If that is to happen, tennis is sure to miss the level of competition these two adversaries brought to the fore.

The level of tennis produced by Federer and Nadal is unmatchable. The last time the world got to witness such a treat was at the Wimbledon final in 2008. It was a day that has gone down in history as one of the best tennis matches the world had a chance to see.

It was a gruelling five set match but in the end Nadal had managed to dethrone the King of grass. They are each other’s worst enemies on the court but outside they share mutual respect and admiration for each other.

Ever since then Nadal’s injury forced him out of most of the majors in 2009 and then in 2010 Federer’s dwindling form has left people thirsty for a Nadal-Federer encounter.

Fans are now pinning their hopes on the US Open. Nadal has never won a title there and Federer will be looking to gain some form. Hence both players will be pushing themselves to reach the finals and more to play each other.

This is one rivalry that would be remembered for years to come and it will be a huge task to fill the shoes of such greats by the next generation.

What exactly is it that makes this rivalry so special? The answer lies in the on and off court personalities of the Swiss and the Spaniard. It could be said that their rivalry is akin to that of Pete Sampras and Andre Agassi with Nadal being as boisterous as Agassi, whereas Federer as sober yet fiery as Sampras.

Dressed in sober, elegant attire Federer walks out on court enveloped with an aura of calm, his racquet stringed to precision to commence his onslaught. Just like his predecessor Sampras, emotions are rarely witnessed on Federer’s face. His celebratory move is a slight fist pump and when he loses a point he quietly walks back to the baseline in contemplation.

Only when he is in dire straits can “allez” be heard from the Swiss. There is artistry in his play, he glides all over the court without making the slightest bit of noise and puts the ball exactly where he had planned. When hitting a lob it seems as if he is ascending in the clouds to fetch the ball; Roger Federer is elegance personified.

In a stark contrast, wearing the most up to date garish men’s fashion, Rafael Nadal would run onto the court in preparation to nab his victim. Nadal’s muscles would be ripping through his colourful t-shirts and his shoes bearing his name would be the cameramen’s subject.

He comes out on court with a vengeance, generating power behind each shot that he plays. He scales the skies when he wins a point yet chides himself after playing a loose shot. Emotions are riding high when the Spaniard is on court. His ability to run each ball down and use double the amount of top spin on his ground strokes is what troubles his opponents. The Spaniard’s weapon lies in his power play.

The contrast between the two makes it a match made in heaven. The world stops when these two walk out on the court to test each other. It becomes a battle between extreme power and sheer precision. The winner at the end is the game of tennis that has produced such idols.

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#43 28-07-2010 22:30:51

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Nadal, Federer and History

My how the tides have changed. Rafael Nadal asserted himself in 2008 over the entire ATP field after being the only real challenger to the reign of Roger Federer, finally emerging from behind the Swiss star after years in the number two spot. However it was a momentum Nadal's body could not sustain after battling Fernando Verdasco to the death for a spot in the 2009 Australian Open, where he claimed his first hard court Grand Slam, claiming one slam on all surfaces before the man he beat, Federer. After the Australian Rafa's body and life spiralled out of control.

In Rotterdam he limped to the finish line against eventual winner Andy Murray. After a brief stint off to rest his legs the wheels really came of the Nadal bandwagon. While everyone was busy focusing on Roger Federer's 'decline' after he smashed a racquet on the US hard courts, Rafa was struggling in Miami to close out matches, his focus patchy as he tried to deal with the disolution of his parents marriage and the worsening state of his knees. Despite not moving as well as he can when he stepped on to the European clay courts Rafa cleaned up, winning Monte Carlo and Barcelona for the fifth consecutive time, Rome for the fourth time in five years and then making a strong start in Madrid. After his Madrid final loss, where the Spanish star looked jaded, people assumed he would once again reign in Paris. But it was not meant to be.

Everyone remembers Roland Garros 2009. Nadal was beaten for the first time ever in Paris by Robin Soderling, Federer who had been struggling in his matches battled his way to the final, knowing this was his best chance ever, finally claiming the one Slam that had eluded him. With Nadal out of the picture it was like the early years of Federer's dominance - there was no one to really challenge him again. Federer won the Roland Garros-Wimbledon double, claiming a record breaking 15th Grand Slam in the process, which he added to again this year at the Australian Open.

As we stand, waiting at the gaits of Wimbledon for the mens singles finals, Rafael Nadal stands awaiting history. If he beats Tomas Berdych he will have claimed his 8th Grand Slam, second Wimbeldon title and complete his second Roland Garros-Wimbledon double all while reclaiming his place at the top of the men's rankings, stopping Federer from surpassing Pete Sampras all-time record of weeks at number one.

If he wins Nadal will add 2000 points to his tally, further separating him from Federer and will be reproducing his incredible 2008 results - and people were talking about his career being all but over. Now instead of talking about the demise of Nadal people are talking about hte demise of Federer, wildly thought to be the 'greatest of all time' - BUT there is a significant difference between the two champions (besides statistics). When Nadal lost in Roland Garros in 2009 he was gracious in defeat, refusing to discuss his injuries, not wanting to distract from his opponents well earnt victory. The other day we saw that Federer, on the other hand, does not handle defeat particularly well, blaming injuries and saying he was unlucky and he hasn't had much luck lately - a big statement from a man who almost always gets a good draw and has had more luck and good fortune in one year (during any time in his career) than most people have in a life time.

It is worth noting this is not the first time Federer has struggled to deal with the prospect that his reign may be over thanks to the man from Spain. Think of the sobbing mess we saw at the Australian Open in 2009.

So here we are, looking at almost the exact opposite of what happened last year, wondering if Berdych can do what Roddick couldn't... Win Wimbledon.

Here are soome of the differences between the two men who have dominated the top two spots in the rankings, and Grand Slams, for the last five years.

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#44 26-08-2010 20:04:33

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Re: Roger Federer vs Rafael Nadal

Two great Champions for an exceptional decade

On the eve of the upcoming US Open I find it interesting to focus on the absolute domination of Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer over the last ten years.
These two great champions have printed their name on the history books.
It is also the moment to analyze their real chances to win at Flushing Meadows, which will start in a few days.

Two players have written tennis's history over the last five years.

If we take a closer look at the history of tennis, we can notice only one, or two players have dominated a decade of tennis.
In the 70's it was Jimmy Connors and Bjorn Borg who were on top of the tennis world and claimed numerous Grand Slams.
In the 80's, it was Ivan Lendl, Mats Wilander and John McEnroe turn.
In the 90's Pete Sampras and Andre Agassi have written the most wonderful moments of tennis.
It was then the turn of Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal to make history headlines since the beginning of the twenty first century. However there is a clear distinction between the Swiss and the Spaniard and the others since they have totally dominated the tennis world for the last five years.
It is also very surprising if we also consider today's general level of play have improved so much. Therefore, many specialists think it will be more and more difficult for players to dominate.
But one statistic is still stunning:
Federer and Nadal have claimed 17 of the last 19 majors played.
Taking the numbers one step further, over the last 27 majors, only 4 have not been claimed by one of these tremendous players.
Numbers tell the story for these two great champions, who managed to downgrade all players ranked under them, even if they are also true very good players.
We have to look at the facts clearly. We are lucky to be in the most amazing era in the history of tennis.

They managed to downgrade very talented players.

We don't measure enough the dimension of this unparalleled situation. Two amazing players fight in order to mark history books time and again. They took away most of the majors and left an entire generation of very good players with small pieces of the pie.  It was unfortunate for them to fall in the same era. Of course I'm thinking of Nalbandian, Safin, Roddick, or Davydenko, who would have had a greater career in another era. They constantly had to face Roger or Rafa and gave up.
After countless setbacks they had to be happy with being forced to win minor league events during their career.
Andy Roddick won the US Open but then had to be satisfied by reaching three Wimbledon finals and one US Open final. He lost all four matches in the hands of Roger.
Marat Safin met the man from Switzerland 12 times, but only managed to win a couple of times against him.
Davydenko was a semi-finalist in four majors and lost three times against Roger Federer.
As for the actual generation, they are also heavily punished by these two greats despite being very talented. Of course I'm thinking of Berdych, Söderling, Murray, Djokovic, Cilic, and Del Potro.

Federer and Nadal have not been in the same shape at the same time for almost three years.

The constant fight undergone by Federer and Nadal is exhausting for the body and the spirit.
That is why they have not been at the peak of their form at the same time.
We had the total domination of one, or the other in succession. Rafa often struggled with his fitness, while Roger had a lack of motivation.
2007 was a Federer year, where the Swiss won three Grand Slams. He then showed less motivation and let Nadal take the lead.
2008 was a Nadal year, where he won both the French Open and Wimbledon. The Swiss was said to be declining slowly. Some even thought he would retire.
In 2009, Nadal was injured and it was Roger's turn to take command of the ship.
The man from Switzerland also managed to grab both the French Open and Wimbledon, claiming at the same moment his first Roland Garros crown and breaking another record by winning all four majors. Some specialists are upset about the Spaniard's health. We could read on some papers his knees would not last long.
In 2010, the Mallorcan made a very successful return to competition. He suffered from being out of the game for weeks and his motivation is huge. Once again he managed to claim both the French Open and Wimbledon. However the Swiss is having trouble finding the same interest in the game after what happened in 2009. His wife also gave birth to two twin daughters. Roger clearly was in quest for a new motivation.
But despite his loss in the two midseason majors he started the North American series with a boost. His fighting spirit and determination are back after reaching the Toronto final and winning Cincinnati. As for the actual Rafa, he seems to be struggling finding his game. He lost both tournaments making unusual unforced errors.

No clear favorite on the US Open.

Nadal is struggling with his game, while Roger is just starting to find it, which means a bunch of very promising talents and the already old guard could turn tables around :
Murray, Djokovic, Berdych, Baghdatis, Nalbandian and Fish are determined to break the absolute domination of Roger and Rafa.

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#45 07-09-2010 13:19:26

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Federer says rival Nadal could challenge as best ever

Roger Federer doesn't doubt that Rafael Nadal could one day challenge him for the title of best in the game as the pair head for the second week of the US Open.

"He's had some incredible clay court records that are going to be very hard to beat," said the Swiss who holds a record 16 Grand Slam titles.

"Clearly has a chance because he's young enough. That he has already so many, let's say, French Open titles (four) to his name just alone at his age (24) is an amazing accomplishment.

Federer - like Nadal - has always been ultra polite when speaking of his hottest rival. Even standing No. 1, Nadal refuses to actually concede that he has the edge on the Swiss, whom he's beaten on 14 of 21 occasions.

Nadal is chasing his first US Open to complete his own career Grand Slam of all four majors, Federer is bidding for his sixth new York trophy in seven editions. "(Nadal) would need to win the US Open, put himself there (among the all-time best). He's won the Olympics, done some amazing things. So he'll have a shot at it, I'm sure," said Federer, aiming for a sixth US Open trophy from the past seven editions.

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#46 07-09-2010 13:42:47

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03.09.2010

STAN NA DZIEŃ : 03.09.2010 rok
(wiek 24 lata, 3 miesiące)

Roger Federer vs Rafael Nadal
Turnieje/Finały 33/8 - 41/12
TMS/Finały) 8/2 - 18/6
TMC/Finały 2 - 0
GS/Finały) 6 - 8/2
Ranking 1 - 1
Ilość tyg jako #1:  92 - 60
Ilość wygranych sezonów (Year End #1): 1 - 1

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2011: TMS Rzym; 2010: Basel, Marsylia; 2009: WTF, Stuttgart, Wimbledon, TMS Madryt; 2008: WTF

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#47 13-09-2010 15:42:41

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Chasing Federer, or Pulling Away?

With a pair of 2010 Grand Slam titles already in the bag and a potential third delayed one day because of rain, Rafael Nadal has clearly distanced himself from Roger Federer.

In pursuit, mind you, of Roger Federer.

It should be achingly apparent that the most compelling and current tennis rivalry is no longer Federer-Nadal, but more of a one-man show, a physiological drama, Nadal against himself.

All due respect to Novak Djokovic — handed much-needed rest and improved odds of an upset Monday in the United States Open men’s final by Sunday’s rainout — but nobody threatens Nadal’s domination quite like the body parts that occasionally surrender to the swashbuckling abandon with which he plays.

For his part, Federer has not beaten Nadal at a major since 2007, has lost six of their last seven matches and, based on form, was probably spared a deflating and defining beatdown when he dropped his five-set semifinal to Djokovic on Saturday.

He and Nadal, likable Europeans and affable competitors, have electrified their sport and at times even remedied the myopia in our nationalistic circles regarding the search for the Next Great American. But what was perhaps the best rivalry in sports for about three years has seen its best days. It is either over or on indefinite suspension until Nadal proves healthy enough to restore it in a more historical sense by, say, 2015.

Nadal dismisses such talk, remaining charming and humble as he sledgehammers his way from opponent to opponent. “I am not on the way to be the best in history because that’s very far,” he said after dismissing Mikhail Youzhny on Saturday in the semifinals. “I really don’t believe I can arrive to Roger’s level, no?”

“We’ll see” would probably have been the less modest but more honest response. Nadal, a couple of months past his 24th birthday, is eight Grand Slam titles behind Federer’s record 16, and entering the years when Federer, who won 10 of them between ages 24 and 29, did the bulk of his winning.

If Nadal departs New York with a ninth, if he becomes more selective of the tour tournaments he plays and more protective of his tendinitis-ridden knees, it’s entirely plausible that Federer’s record, established in 2009, could have a shorter shelf life than Pete Sampras’s, who won his 14th and final title in 2002.

Federer insists he is not going away any time soon, and it would be premature to characterize him as a stationary career target for Nadal, no longer capable of running the seven-match table at a Grand Slam event.

There are times when Federer is overpowered by tennis’s young sluggers, but other occasions when he seems impatient and distracted. It is possible that his most vexing issue right now is his stage of life, married with young children, more than his age, 29.

Once upon an era, premier players tended to burn out or just become bored by their mid-20s — John McEnroe and Bjorn Borg, to name two. But technology has transformed tennis, turned it into a game for fully developed bodies and minds, for men and for women.

“The science of training is going to prolong everyone’s optimum playing years,” said Mike Wolf, whose 17-year-old charge, the American Jack Sock, won the junior singles title Sunday. Wolf’s point was that Sock, a high school senior, could go to college for a couple of years, grow up in a variety of ways, and have plenty of time to become a world-class player.

We can wait another year before writing off Federer as a serious contender at the Slams. But even given the benefit of the doubt, hypothesizing that he can win one or two more, a healthy Nadal has the goods to restore the rivalry to full historical bloom by the time Federer is gone from the sport, playing family doubles with his wife and twin girls.



The unforeseen always lurks, of course. Juan Martín del Potro, injured and absent from this year’s Open after bludgeoning Federer in their five-set final a year ago, could return to mount a challenge to Nadal. Djokovic seemed to be on the threshold of muscling his way into contention for No. 1 a couple of years ago and has a huge opportunity Monday.

For all we know, an American is even out there waiting to grow, then pounce. Ryan Harrison showed potential in upsetting Ivan Ljubicic in the first round, and Sock has endeared himself to Djokovic as a hitting partner during the Open.

In the meantime, there is nobody in the top 10 or on the radar quite like Nadal, who has transformed himself from the king of clay into the dictator on all surfaces, who has lost the absurd total of two service games in six rounds at the Open and who goes for No. 9 Monday on the road back to an enduring rivalry with his good friend Roger.

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By the Numbers: Nadal vs. Federer

Rafael Nadal completed the career Grand Slam Monday, adding the 2010 US Open championship to his five titles at the French Open, two at Wimbledon and one at the Australian Open.

He is more than two-and-a-half years younger than Roger Federer was when the Swiss accomplished the Slam sweep at the 2009 French Open.

As of Sept. 13, Nadal is 24 years, three months and 10 days old. Federer was the same exact age on Nov. 18, 2005.

While tennis media and fans debate about the greatest player of all time, Nadal is ahead of Federer's pace in several key categories.

Nadal on 9/13/10
Overall Record  460-98
Winning Pct.  .824
Titles 42
Major Titles 9
Majors Played 26
Davis Cup Titles 3
Olympic Gold Medals 1
Longest Win Streak 32
Rank 1
Weeks at No. 1 60
Record vs. No. 1 14-6

Federer on 11/18/05

Overall Record  390-119
Winning Pct.  .766
Titles 33
Major Titles 6
Majors Played 27
Davis Cup Titles 0
Olympic Gold Medals 0
Longest Win Streak 34
Rank 1
Weeks at No. 1 93
Record vs. No. 1 2-3

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#49 15-09-2010 14:09:53

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US Open - Nadal: I don't think I'll match Fed's titles

Despite the triumph of a first victory at the US Open, Rafael Nadal says that he is still some way short of achieving as much as great rival Roger Federer.

"I think talking about if I am better or worse than Roger (Federer) is stupid," he protested. "Because the titles say he's much better than me, so that's true at that moment. I think that will be true all my life."

Federer, 29, has a record 16 Grand Slam championships, but the 24-year-old Nadal made his ninth Grand Slam triumph something extra special.

The 6-4 5-7 6-4 6-2 victory over Novak Djokovic of Serbia for his first Flushing Meadows win made Nadal the seventh man to claim all four of the sport's Grand Slam titles, and the first since Rod Laver 41 years ago to close a season with wins at the French Open, Wimbledon and the US championship.

The question, however, still remained.

Almost from the moment he stepped on to the court as a teenager raised on dusty red Spanish clay courts, Nadal has been answering the same question: Was he going to be the greatest player of all time?

Nadal's New York performance made a huge statement.

After piling up five French Opens, two Wimbledons and an Australian Open the hard-hitting left-hander had set his sights firmly on the final jewel in the Grand Slam crown.

He improved his serve, honed his volley and nurtured his fitness to triumph at a Federer stronghold where the Swiss had won five titles and reached six successive finals.

"It was an amazing feeling," beamed Nadal. "I played my best match in the US Open at the most important moment, so I am very, very happy for that, for sure.

"To win in here in the US Open I think is the more difficult tournament for me to play, more difficult conditions to adapt, to adjust my game on this court, for the balls, for the court, for everything."

With Nadal sweeping through the Slams, it is easy to forget the turnaround the Spaniard has made.

Last year his chronic knee problems were so bad it kept him from defending his Wimbledon title. An abdominal problem weakened him at the US Open, and his physical woes were so bad he quit his quarter-final at the Australian Open in January.

"Life changes sometimes, no?" said a philosophical Nadal. "Ten months ago (it) seemed like I was never gonna be the same. Now, seems I gonna be one of the greatest....

"When you come back, you are ready to value how difficult it is win titles and how difficult is to be there all the time."

Nadal understands how quickly things can change in tennis and in life, but he served his rivals a dire warning in addressing the state of his game.

"For me the most important thing is try to keep serving like I did during this tournament," said Nadal, who lost only one set in the championship.

"If I can do it, it is gonna be a big change for me and my tennis career, because if I have those free points that I had during all this tournament, (it's) gonna be different for me.

"I can play more aggressive. I can play with more calm when I am returning.

"After that, I can improve everything: volley, keep improving the volley, keep improving the position on court, being more inside the court.

"I improved a lot since last year, but never is enough. I am not a perfect player, so everybody can improve."

Even with improvement, Nadal was loath to speculate on catching Federer.

"We will see what happens in the future. I am not a genius."
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US Open, prasa: Ekspres Nadal zbliża się do Federera

Według "The New York Times" zwycięstwo Rafaela Nadala w US Open nie jest ostatecznym celem kariery Hiszpana, a wręcz przeciwnie. "Dzień po dniu, klimat po klimacie, Nadal wciąż podnosi swój poziom" - czytamy.
Nowojorski dziennik pisze, że Nadal przetrwał "skwar, potem deszcz, zignorował rozgardiasz Open, działających pod wpływem impulsu widzów, w końcu także Đokovicia". Choć jednak "stał się panem wszystkich nawierzchni", "Times" uznaje w tytule artykułu, że "marsz mistrza do wielkości wydaje się być daleki od zakończenia".

Nadal ma tylko 24 lata i dziewięć wygranych turniejów wielkoszlemowych, ale nie chce mówić o ewentualnym ataku na rekord Rogera Federera (16 tytułów). "Gdziekolwiek Federer był w poniedziałek - a obiecał finału nie oglądać - mógł słyszeć wycie zbliżającego się do niego ekspresowego pociągu Nadala" - pisze "The New York Times".

Największa fotografia na pierwszej stronie dziennika należy się wznoszącemu triumfalnie ręce, klęczącemu na niebieskim korcie Nadalowi.

W relacji z meczu: "Nadal oczywiście podzielił się erą z Federerem, co dało owej erze mnóstwo dobrego, ale ten sezon i tegoroczny US Open należą ekskluzywnie do niego" oraz "wygrał tytuł dzięki ścięciu z nóg Đokovicia ze swoim fenomenalnym zasięgiem, konsekwentnym returnem i ulepszonym serwisem, szczególnie slajsowanym serwisem w głębokie pole (ad court), co zmuszało Đokovicia do uwolnienia od bekhendu drugiej ręki i gwałtownego rzucenia się w desperacji przy wielu okazjach".

Mówi Toni Nadal, stryj i trener Rafy: - Oprócz samego zwycięstwa, wielką porcję satysfakcji daje mi to, że widzę, w jaki sposób poprawił się na szybkich kortach. To był nasz cel, o którego spełnieniu nie byliśmy przekonani. Ale teraz returnuje lepiej, serwuje nieco lepiej i gra bliżej linii końcowej. Slajsowany bekhend jest o wiele lepszy.

Wyjaśnienie dlaczego przeniesiony na poniedziałek finał nie zaczął się wcześniej, gdy prognozy były bardziej optymistyczne: "To sieci telewizyjne mówią sportom co robić". A w Stanach Zjednoczonych właśnie wystartował sezon NFL. "Po długiej przerwie deszczowej, transmisja została przeniesiona z kanału CBS na ESPN2, ponieważ CBS chciał pochwalić się swoim zaplanowanym programem w czasie największej oglądalności." Na głównym ESPN trwała pierwsza w regularnych rozgrywkach transmisja "Monday Night Football".

Przesunięcie finału na poniedziałek, tak jak w dwóch poprzednich edycjach turnieju, naraziło na dodatkowe koszty nie tylko organizatora, który musiał na dodatkowy dzień zatrudnić obsługę, służby bezpieczeństwa, policję. Jak wspomniano, ucierpiały także słupki oglądalności. "Już powodujący irytację turniej stał się logistycznym koszmarem" - pisze "Times". W 2008 roku finał Federer - Murray oglądało 6,7 mln widzów (najgorszy wynik w historii US Open); w ubiegłym roku mecz Federer - del Potro śledziło 14,6 mln ludzi (wskaźnik 2,3; drugi najgorszy wynik w dziejach turnieju w Erze Otwartej).

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Nadal: Ja czy Federer? Tytuły mówią za siebie

- Myślę, że mówienie o tym, czy ja jestem lepszy albo gorszy od Rogera jest głupie. Tytuły mówią, że on jest o wiele lepszy ode mnie. Taka jest prawda w tym momencie. I wydaje mi się, że tak będzie przez cała życie - Rafael Nadal powiedział po triumfie w US Open.

29-letni Roger Federer w ciągu swojej kariery wywalczył 16 tytułów wielkoszlemowych. Rafael Nadal jest o pięć lat młodszy. Na swoim koncie ma 9 tytułów. Ten ostatni w US Open jest szczególnie ważny, bo pozwolił Hiszpanowi skompletować zwycięstwa w każdym z czterech wielkich szlemów.

To wielki sukces Hiszpana. Jeszcze niedawno zmagał się on z ciężkimi kontuzjami kolan. Niektórzy specjaliści nie dawali mu szans na całkowite wyleczenie. - Dziesięć miesięcy temu wydawało się, że nie będę taki sam. Teraz wydaje się, że będę jednym z najlepszych - powiedział Rafael Nadal. - Najlepszy mecz w US Open zagrałem w najważniejszym momencie , dlatego bardzo, bardzo się z tego cieszę - dodał.

Nadal sam przyznaje, że wciąż stara się poprawić coś w swojej grze. - Mogę poprawić wszystko: wolej, pozycję na korcie, wchodzić do środka kortu. Wiele rzeczy poprawiłem w porównaniu do poprzedniego roku, ale nigdy temu dość. Nie jestem idealnym zawodnikiem. Każdy może nad czymś popracować.

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#52 15-09-2010 22:08:11

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Zaskakujące jest to, że Nadal praktycznie zaprzecza temu, że kiedykolwiek osiągnie tyle co Federer, jeżeli chodzi o szlemy. Nie wierzy, czy zna swoje możliwości i warunki fizyczne?

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Federer's strategy to stop Nadal

Since he's back on the tour, finally free from any physical issues, Rafael Nadal has won nearly everything mattering this year. Forced to pull out at the Australian Open, whereas he was playing great, he has now won the three following Grand Slams, which is outstanding. His record this season is the evidence of his domination of the tennis world. Like it or not, Federer, Djokovic, Murray or Berdych for instance have now to search a real « anti Nadal » game plan if they really want to get a chance of winning some Grand Slams in the years to come. If we take in consideration the way he dictates the game and the way he's constantly improving, his reign will only be able to be stopped by injuries or by finding someone who can really play at his level. It's obvious now that when Rafa is in his best shape, he can't be defeated. Waiting for injuries would be as putting their destiny in the hands of circumstances. For some, the strategy against him means improving again and again to become way better players. Roger Federer, on the opposite, has already all the weapons to disturb the Spaniard. Question is now: how to use them effectively?

At what stage is Roger now?

It's obvious again that the King Federer of the pre-Nadal period is struggling a lot since a year. Sure he has won a Grand Slam this season, played the quarters in two other ones and the semi-final of the fourth one. But his level is going down and here is how I see it. Even if it's tough to be really sure cause the Swiss communication is a bit cloudy, the issue can be coming from two sides. Whether he's still suffering from his back, which explained a lot of his recent losses (but has been revealed way later) and that would explain a trainer is now following him all the time, whether he's paying the hard way emotionally for his last triumphs last year at the French Open and Wimbledon and for the birth of his twin girls (he has become a father for the first time). Whatever it can be, since one year Roger isn't the same player. Despite all of this, he remains the main rival of the Spaniard, mostly because his game owns enough abilities to mess with Rafa's plans. Here is the strategy that, in my opinion, he should set up against Nadal.

He must believe in his ability to win

What strikes me the most in the Nadal - Federer battles is the lack of belief of the Swiss. In most of their matches, Roger seems to have the key to win but he's not as efficient as he is against any other player. In 2009, when Rafa won the Australian Open final, Federer looked overall better in terms of level of play. Too hesitant, waiting too much instead of dictating the game, he was advised to find a famous coach « in order to find new tactical solutions against Nadal. » I admit I had been shocked by this position cause I really find the Swiss really accurate in his choices. So why can't he overcome Nadal ? First, he often lacks lucidity cause he's suffering from a slight inferiority complex that hampers him in key moments. Then, because I think he's not entering the court in front of Nadal with a really clear mind on what he's going to do this time. He seems to try to beat Nadal playing the Spaniard's game, without thinking of a whole strategy. The least we can say is that it's not working very well.

Getting Nadal out of his comfort zone

Next reason why Federer is lacking lucidity against Nadal comes from the fact that it's Rafa who is making him play in his game style. After 6 to 8 shots rallies, Roger's lucidity starts to go down, he's becoming hesitant or too much impatient to end the point. He's struggling cause the forehand of the Spaniard coming on his own backhand with strop topspin and high rebound is preventing him from speeding up the pace.
Against Rafa, Roger isn't allowed to doubt. He has to make unforced errors, he has to get passed at the net but he must dictate the rhythm. He must put the Mallorcan under pressure and shorten the points. Until now it's Rafa who is neutralizing Roger by stucking him on his backhand and forcing him to play high balls and and be uncomfortable.
Making his serve's efficiency even better 

Roger's first serve is really great cause it has everything needed at this level: accuracy, speed, and effects. He can slice on the deuce side and use the kick on the advantage side in order to get a player out of the court and get openings as soon as the second shot. Against Nadal, strategy demanding to be constantly aggressive is turning the first serve percentage in the main key. If he tries more for the serves with effects, he'll be able to stay with a high percentage and to take the lead of the points early on by being offensive in the second shot.

Attacking the second serves

Keeping up with this aim of depriving Nadal from time, Roger must, as Sampras was doing, be aggressive on the second serves. Rafa hates to be rushed when he prepares his shots. He needs time to play deep balls and to find his timing. So Roger must take the ball early and go in full force on Rafa's forehand. Sometimes he should follow his shots to the net; sometimes he should wait a bit to get a short ball. In any cases, Rafa's second serve is a big opportunity for Roger to dictate the point, to put the opponent under pressure and force him to play too short. Roger should really use it. Sure he'll be more prone to mistakes but will also get more winners this way. He has to put Nadal out of his comfort zone to prevent him from playing stuck on the baseline, what he likes the most.

Not hesitating to take the net

One of the main Nadal's strength is to push his opponent to play always one more shot again and again. His defensive skills are amazing so it's hard to get him out of the way. His topspin often makes opponents force to play far from the baseline, preventing them from taking the ball early. When it comes to rallies, Rafa is the best in the world. And it's enough of a reason for trying to shorten the points at the net. Roger isn't a serve and volley player, not the type who comes at the net cause he feels comfortable and strong there. But he remains really good in the net game, so it has to be a tool when facing the Spaniard. It's the last step he has to make when he has taken the advantage. Sure he'll often get passed but will get many points too and, even more important, he'll deprive Nadal from his best abilities: the point will be over before Nadal would have been able to bring back i don't know how many unreachable balls. Points will be shortened too. Enough to disturb the machine...

Keeping a perfect fitness

When one is facing Rafael Nadal, he has to be in his best possible shape and this for several reasons: cause you're facing the fittest guy out there, cause if you get tired you'll be less clear minded. It's often what's happening on clay by the way. Rafa's opponents seem to be fine for a time and then they're in a burn out. So mistakes are coming and the games are flying away. Finally cause if someone wants to go on in the anti Nadal strategy he'll need to be very punchy and fit to always take the ball early. Being late for just half of second and the ball is already spinning like mad and pushes to mistakes. The Spaniard often plays short but opponents aren't taking benefit of that cause their speed in the playing forward style isn't efficient enough.
To be followed...



PS: In the next papers, I'll try to come up with areas of work for the other rivals of Nadal : Djokovic, Murray,...

PS2 : Congratulations to Daria Gavrilova, member of my Academy, who won the Juniors title of the US Open and is currently the n°1 player in the Juniors ranking.

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#54 27-09-2010 17:09:51

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Sorry, ale dla mnie te dywagacje to sztuka dla sztuki. Jak Nadal będzie grać dość dobrze, żeby dotoczyć się do półfinału/finału, to na obecnym etapie kariery Fed ma marniutkie szanse z nim wygrać.

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ANALYSIS-Tennis-Nadal's earning power may not match Federer's

* Spaniard earns less than half Federer's off-court income
* Sponsors wary of making deals in tough economic climate
Rafa Nadal has toppled Roger Federer from the summit of the tennis world rankings but overtaking his arch rival as the sport's number one in off-court earnings is likely to prove a much stiffer challenge.
Nadal, 24, joined the 29-year-old Federer and five other players on an elite list when he swept to victory at last month's U.S. Open and completed a career grand slam of all four major tournaments.
The Spaniard, who now has nine grand slam singles titles, has shrugged off the niggling injuries that had plagued him over the past couple of seasons and his career is very much on the up, while the Swiss, who has a record 16 major singles titles, is closer to the end of his.
However, Federer's annual earnings of $35 million from sponsorship and appearance fees are still more than double those of Nadal, who makes around $15 million, according to an estimate by Forbes Magazine.
Both players had lucrative sponsorship deals with Nike, with Federer's worth around $10 million a year and Nadal's $7 million, Kurt Badenhausen, a senior Forbes editor who compiles annual rankings of athletes' earnings, told Reuters.
Federer, who is sixth on the latest Forbes list of the world's best-paid athletes, has sponsors including Credit Suisse, Gillette, Mercedes Benz and Rolex. Nadal, who does not make the top 50, has deals with Kia Motors and Spanish financial firms Banesto and Mapfre, among others.
Nadal's victory in New York last month was likely to dramatically raise his profile among corporate sponsors and widen his earnings potential beyond the tennis industry and regional deals in Spain, Badenhausen told Reuters by telephone.
However, the difficult economic climate and the fallout from the revelations about the private life of golfer Tiger Woods, previously the darling of corporate sponsors, had made companies wary of committing large sums to endorsement deals, he added.
HARD PRESSED
"If you look around the endorsement landscape almost nothing is getting done," Badenhausen said.
"Nadal's already a pretty established player and I don't think we're going to see five or six companies rushing to give him new deals."
"He's going to be hard pressed to surpass Federer in off-court income but I can see his earnings going up to $20 or $25 million over the next year or two."
Like Federer, Mallorca-born Nadal has many of the attributes that corporate sponsors look for in an athlete, according to Antonio Martin, director of the Masters programme in sports management at the IE Business School in Madrid.
These included sporting success, an attractive character and physique, hunger to keep winning, a desire to improve and continue learning, humility, respect for opponents and accessibility to fans, Martin told Reuters.
In addition, Martin said, Nadal had a highly competent team of advisers at IMG, who also manage Federer and Russian Maria Sharapova, the top earner in women's tennis who recently signed a new deal with Nike that could be worth as much as $70 million.
Nadal's chances of overtaking Federer in off-court earnings would depend on how long he was able to maintain his current level of form, Martin added.
"His U.S. Open victory will certainly boost his brand value but I don't think as much as when he won the French Open or Wimbledon for the first time," he said.
RACE APART
Mario Oliveto, managing director for Spain and Latin America at Sport+Markt, a consulting firm, said that Nadal's hunger for success and his desire to keep improving set him apart from his rivals and made him a big catch for corporate sponsors.
He agreed with Martin that Nadal's victory at the U.S. Open would boost his earning power but probably not as much as after his first triumphs at the French Open or Wimbledon.
"His desire to keep winning is really that of a race apart," Oliveto told Reuters.
"If we add to that his humility, his always respectful attitude and his youth we have a player who has the capacity to carry on developing and winning for several more years, with all that implies for the value of his brand," he added.
Banesto chief executive Jose Garcia Cantera, speaking to Reuters in Madrid on Thursday, explained why the Spanish bank picked Nadal to front its advertising campaign. "We chose Rafael Nadal when he was not yet world number one," Garcia Cantera said. "We saw in him the skills we identify Banesto with, the same principles; always striving for more."

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Federer 'different class' to Nadal

Federer is ranked third in the world and has won only two titles in 2010, but nine-times men's doubles Grand Slam champion Jonas Bjorkman is convinced that the Swiss player remains the best in the world.

.."There's a difference in class and Federer is a much, much better player than (world number one Rafael) Nadal at this point in time," Sweden's former world number four said.

Bjorkman's assessment may raise a few eyebrows considering Nadal has won seven tournaments this season, including the French Open, Wimbledon and US Open crowns.

However, Bjorkman was adamant that nine-times slam winner Nadal could only be compared to the Swiss maestro once the Spaniard had matched Federer's staying power at the big four events.

Not only has the 29-year-old won a record 16 majors but he also reached an astonishing 23 consecutive Grand Slam semi-finals -- a record many pundits believe is unbreakable.

"Nadal has to come up to the same level when it comes to grand slam titles before it (who is the greatest among Federer and Nadal) can even be discussed," Bjorkman added.

"It's a question of injuries and motivation and how long he (Nadal) can continue, but the big difference is that Federer is such a great ambassador. He does so much to market tennis.

"Nadal will need to stay healthy for a long time and break all of Federers records before it's even worth discussing."

Even though Federer has endured a lean season, by his own high standards, Bjorkman was delighted that he managed to pursuade Federer to compete in the tournament he runs in Sweden.

"He missed the tournament once before and he said that he wanted to make it up to people. He's a fantastic ambassador, he doesn't usually miss tournaments and he really felt that he wanted to come back here," Bjorkman said.

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Federer compliments Nadal's standout season

Roger Federer has nothing but praise for the record-setting 2010 season of Rafael Nadal as the Spaniard works to resume training after his recent shoulder complaint in time to front up to next week's ATP World Tour Finals.

Meanwhile at the Paris Masters, Federer is thick in the bid for a third consecutive title during the post-US Open period after lifting his third and fourth trophys of the season in Stockholm at Basel.

Federer called Nadal's effort at winning three of the four majors "obviously an amazing season."

"Winning three Grand Slams in a year is something I've done a few times, and I know how hard it is to do. So it's an amazing effort from his side. Not only did he dominate there, but he's won multiple other titles.

"He went through some tournaments where he was unbeatable, unreachable, which makes this a great season for him."

But the 29-year-old Swiss knows there is more of the same likely in store from the Spaniard. And the chance to prove it could come in just over a week when the eight-man season final starts in London next Sunday. Nadal missed Paris with his shoulder problem.

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McEnroe: Federer nie może równać się z Nadalem


Niewiele jest bardziej imponujących widoków w świecie sportu niż Roger Federer przemieszczający się po korcie. Zdaniem Johna McEnroe Szwajcar nigdy jednak nie będzie równie wielkim atletą, co Rafael Nadal. Z Hiszpańskim tenisistą równać się mógł w opinii Amerykanina tylko legendarny Bjorn Borg.

- Borg i Nadal są największymi atletami wszechczasów - powiedział McEnroe na wtorkowej konferencji w Katarze. - Federer jest jednym z największych tenisistów w historii, ale nie wydaje mi się, aby był on równie dobrym atletą, co wymieniona przeze mnie dwójka - dodał.

Federer, który ma na swoim koncie aż 16 tytułów wielkoszlemowych, będzie miał okazję udowodnić swoją wyższość nad Nadalem, 9-krotnym triumfatorem w Wielkim Szlemie, już w rozpoczynających się w niedzielę w londyńskiej O2 Arena ATP Word Tour Finals.
Federer nie może równać... - TENIS - ATP World Tour Finals

Nadal, który wrócił do zdrowia po kontuzji barku, ma już zagwarantowane zakończenie sezonu w roli lidera rankingu ATP. Zwycięstwa w trzech z czterech turniejów wielkoszlemowych pozwoliły mu odsunąć Federera w cień.

Bjorn Borg uważa, że Hiszpana stać na kontynuowanie wspaniałej passy także w kolejnym sezonie. - Jeżeli będą go omijały kontuzje, a przy tym utrzyma obecny poziom motywacji, może pozostać na szczycie jeszcze bardzo długo - zawyrokował Szwed.

Drugi tenisista świata - Federer - wygrał na początku miesiąca swój 65. turniej w cyklu ATP Tour, wyprzedzając w klasyfikacji wszechczasów Pete'a Samprasa. Teraz Szwajcar w liczbie turniejowych triumfów ustępuje już tylko Jimmy'emu Connorsowi, Ivanowi Lendlowi i właśnie Johnowi McEnroe.

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Robertinho wykrakał, zbliżamy się do Johna w ilości wygranych turniejów to mamy za swoje.


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#60 17-11-2010 08:34:22

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Oj tam, Mack już taki jest, lubi żeby było o nim głośno, taki starszy Agassi, tyle że włosami. Czy to nie ten sam pan mówił niedawno, że Federer to geniusz większy niż wszyscy wielcy mistrzowie razem wzięci, a jego forhend to najlepsze zagranie a całym świecie sportu?   Choć z drugiej strony, ja bym tę wypowiedź odczytywał literalnie ; znaczy się że Rafa to kosmiczny paker, czemu nikt przecież nie zaprzeczy.   Osobiście nie mam nic przeciwko zestawianiu Rafy z Borgiem, bo to po pierwsze niższa półka niż Fed jeśli idzie o osiągnięcia, po drugie grał nudny i monotonny tenis. 
Jak powiedzą, że Nadal jest jak Sampras, zacznę się poważnie niepokoić.

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